The Incompatibility of Punishment and Moral Education: a reply to Peter Hobson

Journal of Moral Education 18 (2):144-147 (1989)
Abstract In his paper ?The compatibility of punishment and moral education?, Hobson (1986) attempts to refute arguments which I had advanced (Marshall, 1984) to the effect that there were incompatibilities between claims to be morally educating children and to be punishing them. I wish to point out in Hobson's paper some questionable interpretations of the punishment literature and a serious flaw in the argument. More importantly, I wish to advance the debate by recourse to historical material and the work of Michel Foucault, as opposed to abstract philosophical argument alone. Foucault argues that the practices of punishment have changed and that the legal notion of punishment (Hobson, 1986) is inappropriate for the description of what he calls disciplinary punishment. This notion best describes what we do to children. Hence claims to be punishing (legal notion) fit uneasily with claims to be developing rational autonomy
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Edward W. Said & David Couzens Hoy (1986). Foucault: A Critical Reader. In Michel Foucault & David Couzens Hoy (eds.), Tijdschrift Voor Filosofie. B. Blackwell 374-375.

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