Title: Well-Ordered Science's Basic Problem Abstract: Kitcher has proposed an ideal-theory account-well-ordered science (WOS)- of the collective good that science's research agenda should promote. Against criticism regarding WOS's action-guidance, Kitcher has advised critics not to confuse substantive ideals and the ways to arrive at them, and he has defended WOS as a necessary and useful ideal for science policy. I provide a distinction between two types of ideal-theories that helps clarifying WOS's elusive nature. I use this distinction to argue that the action-guidance problem that WOS faces remains even under the aims/means distinction, because the WOS's failure is more basic than critics have suggested. Contact Information: Cristian Larroulet Philippi, Department of History and Philosophy of Science, University of Cambridge, Free School Lane, Cambridge CB2 3RH, UK; e-mail: cristianlarroulet@gmail.com. Acknowledgments: This is a descendent of the manuscript "Well-Ordered Science: Ideals and Procedures." Earlier versions of this paper were presented both at the 8th Annual Values in Medicine, Science, and Technology Conference (UT Dallas, 2018), and at the 26th Biennial Meeting of the Philosophy of Science Association (Seattle, 2018). Thanks to Katharina Bernhard, Alison Jaggar, Andrew Schroeder, Jamie Shaw, Katie Steele, and an anonymous referee for helpful comments. Manuscript Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 2 1. Introduction. Whether, how, and where social values enter (and have entered) into scientific practice has been widely discussed. Moving forward requires positive accounts regarding how values should influence science. Philip Kitcher (2001, 2011) has pioneered offering a normative proposal for the determination of science's research agenda (SRA). He calls it "well-ordered science" (WOS).1 On Kitcher's view, science is well-ordered when the lines of research conducted are those that would be decided by a group of ideal deliberators under idealized circumstances. Some authors have criticized WOS for being too idealized, in that it is unable to guide science policy on SRA in our current non-ideal circumstances (Longino 2002; Douglas 2013; Fernández Pinto 2015). Kitcher has responded to this challenge claiming that it confuses substantive normative ideals -at which we should aim-and the ways to arrive at them (2002, 569, 2011, 125). He claims that WOS is both the kind of normative ideal needed and one that can actually provide guidance (2011, 125). 1 Strictly speaking, WOS includes other aspects of the practice of science (e.g., ethical restrictions for experiments), but here I focus only on the normative standard as it applies to SRA. Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 3 I argue here that WOS's problem of guidance remains even under the aims/means distinction, because the failure of WOS is more basic than other critics have suggested. Kitcher understands WOS as a hypothetical procedure, the result of which constitutes the ideal SRA. I argue here that the result of this hypothetical procedure cannot be known, so WOS provides no identifiable ideal SRA that can serve as a standard of comparison for our actual SRA. Thus, Kitcher's reply that the action-guidance criticism confuses ideals and the ways to arrive at them is not true of the version of the criticism presented here. In what follows, I will present WOS as described by Kitcher (2), clarify its nature as an idealtheory (3) of a specific kind (4), and argue that WOS provides no identifiable standard (5). 2. Well-Ordered Science. To propose an ideal SRA, Kitcher imagines an idealized procedure consisting in a group of deliberators, representing all the affected perspectives, being mutually engaged and tutored by scientists. The latter condition work as a "cognitive restriction" and the former as an "affective restriction," in the sense that both are meant to avoid "myopic voters choosing in ignorance of the possibilities, and of the consequences for others, completely absorbed in their own self-directed wishes" (2011, 113). In this way, the resulting list of lines of research to be pursued is expected to consider (i) the scientists' expertise (regarding which research projects are plausible and what are their likely consequences for the various social needs that society deems "significant"); (ii) the deliberators' inputs (knowledge on the needs and values Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 4 of all the affected parties); (iii) and the deliberators' ethical-deliberative capacity (in balancing, under conditions of mutual engagement, the extremely diverse and sometimes conflicting claims present). Having detailed this idealized procedure, Kitcher then proposes that the normative standard for SRA consists in the research projects that would be decided by such a procedure (2001, 122-3, 2011, 114). 3. Ideal-Theories and WOS. Since Kitcher claims that a major obstacle in the literature on science policy has been the lack of a normative ideal, he aims to contribute by putting forth "a first shot at the kind of standard we need" (2001, 146 emphasis added). It is hard to find opposition to the claim that we need some (sort of) normative standard(s) for guiding policy. The debate is whether the kind of standard we need is one of the kind that Kitcher offers, which since Rawls (1999) has been called "ideal theory." This kind of standard involves the construction of an end-state- e.g., the features of "a perfectly just society" (Rawls 1999, 8). The details of this end-state Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 5 involve heavy departure from actual and likely contexts of the real world (what is called "idealization").2 Although contemporary political philosophy draws heavily from "ideal theory," challenges to its normative justification and capacity to guide action have become widespread in the last decades. Some challenges have to do with the relevance of ideal theories in non-ideal circumstances (Valentini 2009). In the case of WOS, this kind of criticism has been made by Longino (2002), and developed in more detail by Fernández Pinto (2015). Other political theorists contend that the idealizations adopted in some ideal theories tend to mislead more than guide political action (Mills 2005; Wiens 2012), while others have questioned the moral weight of the hypothetical consent usually present in ideal theories (Jaggar 1993). In the case of WOS, this last kind of criticism is echoed by Douglas (2013) and (more fully) by Keren (2015). As defenders of Rawlsian ideal theorizing also acknowledge (Robeyns 2008; Simmons 2010), Kitcher has been eager to emphasize that more empirical knowledge is needed in order to guide specific political action. However, he has defended WOS claiming that an ideal is "something at which our practices should aim," and this is conceptually different 2 Standard examples of idealizations are the attribution to human beings of degrees of rationality and moral capacities not found in most actual human beings. For characterizations of ideal-theory see (Mills 2005; Robeyns 2008; Simmons 2010; Valentini 2009). Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 6 from the identification of concrete institutional arrangements that would bring about the ideal (2011, 125). He acknowledges that "meaningful ideals are those for which we can envisage a path that might lead us toward them" (2011, 125). Thus, some guidance from the ideal to institutional arrangements is to be expected. But, on his view, WOS fares well in this regard because it does provide such a guidance, as he illustrates by giving an example (discussed below). Moreover, he claims-echoing Rawls' (1999) defense of ideal theory as something prior to non-ideal theory-that ideal accounts are necessary because "without some understanding of where you want to go, efforts to improve on the status quo will be leaps in the dark" (2011, 125). Thus, Kitcher's response to the lack of action-guidance critique is to defend WOS on the grounds that (i) such an ideal is needed, and that (ii) WOS is an ideal that can actually provide guidance, by giving a concrete example. I challenge (ii) below. Regarding (i), it has been already challenged by Sen (2009), who criticizes the exclusive focus on "end-states" ideals over "transitional accounts" when the concern is eminently practical (as it is in the case of science policy). Sen argues that "endstates" ideals are neither necessary nor sufficient for determining improvements, and assessing improvements is exactly what we need to avoid "leaps in the dark." Regarding necessity, on many occasions we can certainly know whether a new scenario, say, the reduction of gender discrimination, is an improvement in justice, even if we don't know how a perfectly just society looks. Moreover, "end-states" are not sufficient because merely knowing the end-state ideal doesn't necessarily help us in knowing how far we are from it at Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 7 each scenario, nor in knowing if we are getting closer to it when the scenario changes.3 Thus, Kitcher's claim that an ideal-theory ("end-state") is needed for guiding science policy is unjustified. 4. Ideal-Answers and Ideal-Procedures. There has been some lack of clarity in the literature on the exact nature of WOS as an idealtheory (see Douglas 2013; Fernández Pinto 2015; Shaw 2018). For example, it's unclear whether the specific way WOS is expected to set standards for policy depends on the stage of the scientific practice we are considering (e.g., the agenda setting, the determination of ethical constraints on experiments, etc.). To make headway clarifying WOS, I will, first, suggest two ways in which we can read the kind of ideal-theory Kitcher is proposing. WOS is explicitly framed in line with the Rawlsian project about normative principles (Kitcher 2001, 211), so parallels with Rawls' work will be useful here. 3 To be clear, none of the critics of ideal-theorizing argues for the implausible claim that we don't need normative standards for guiding action. The critique is rather targeting the particular way of providing standards that ideal-theory (understood technically) consists in (i.e., the focus on end-states, the construction of which involves highly idealized assumptions). That we do need normative ideals, such as equality, freedom, and the like, for guiding action is not in question (see Mills 2005, 168; Wiens 2012, 55). Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 8 I think an important distinction can be made between normative ideals that constitute an answer to the normative question at stake ("ideal-answers") and ideals that constitute a procedure for answering the normative question ("ideal-procedures"). An example of the first type of ideal is Rawls' (1999) principles of justice. They constitute an answer to the question, "What does a just society look like?" Although the actual normative answer that Rawls gives is derived from his hypothetical procedure, called "the original position," his answer is independent of the procedure in the following sense. It could be derived from and justified by other arguments,4 and, more importantly, we don't need to reimplement the procedure once we know the answer. In other words, in the case of normative ideals of the first kind, "idealanswers," what we should aim at is the result of the hypothetical procedure, not the procedure. An example of the second type of ideal, what I'm calling an "ideal-procedure," could be "democracy" understood as follows. One way of answering the question "Who should govern?" is by specifying an idealized procedure (e.g. free, regular, competitive, and fair elections, one vote per adult, etc.). Here, the normative answer is naturally dependent on the procedure in the sense meant above. The specific content of the answer is known only via implementing an empirical version of the idealized procedure, and the justification of that answer depends on the justification of the procedure. The ideal (that at which our practices 4 Like Rawls' "informal" arguments (1999, chap. 2) Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 9 should aim) is the idealized procedure. So, the answer to the normative question (in all its required detail) comes out only via mimicking the idealized procedure as close as possible. In contrast with ideal-answers, the procedure is never left behind, so to speak. In this taxonomy, Kitcher's WOS should be classified as an ideal-answer. Kitcher claims that the ideal we should aim at is not the idealized procedure, but consists of the answers provided by the hypothetical procedure. Thus, we achieve the ideal not by instituting empirical versions of the idealized procedure, but when the institutional arrangements, whatever they are, "invariably lead to investigations that coincide" with the ones that would have been decided by the ideal deliberators (2001, 122 author's emphasis). Furthermore, continues Kitcher, "there's no thought that well-ordered science must actually institute the complicated discussions I've envisaged. .... Quite probably, setting up a vast populationwide discussion that mimicked the ideal procedure would be an extraordinarily bad idea, precisely because transactions among non-ideal agents are both imperfect and costly. So the challenge is to find institutions that generate roughly the right results, even though we have no ideal deliberators to make the instantaneous decisions we hope to replicate" (2001, 123). Thus, the ideal that WOS consists in is specified by the conclusions of ideal deliberators, that is, by the specific lines of research they would select, and not by the idealized procedure. This is analogous to the ideal of social justice that Rawls proposes, which is specified by the conclusions arrived at by his ideal deliberators in the original position (i.e. his principles of Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. 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To leave no doubts about the correct reading of WOS for SRA, in his (2011) Kitcher repeats explicitly the indictment that "any actual conversation of this type is impossible" (115, author's emphasis). It's worth noting that other commentators have also read WOS for SRA in the same way (Longino 2002; Douglas 2013; Keren 2013). At any rate, in case there is any lingering doubt, the fact that Kitcher mentions some (detailed) conclusions at which ideal deliberators will arrive regarding SRA (see below) should suffice to convince us that he is taking WOS as an idealanswer for SRA. 5. The Problem with WOS. I now argue that Kitcher's WOS, understood as an ideal-answer, cannot be action-guiding because the ideal it consists in (i.e., the conclusions of his ideal deliberators) cannot be Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. 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Finally, I'll assess whether we could know these answers empirically. To visualize the challenge, recall that the task is to infer the decisions of WOS's ideal deliberators with regards to exactly which research projects (among all the ones available in our current circumstances) should be pursued and to what extent (Kitcher 2001, 116, Kitcher 2011, 105). Let me contrast this with how Rawls' (1999) sets up the task. Rawls' deliberators are to choose, under the veil of ignorance, and from a short list of candidates, their preferred principles of justice. Rawls was highly conscious of the challenges of knowing the resulting principles.5 His way of dealing with the challenge was to radically simplify the set-up: (i) the 5 "If this view of the problem of justification is to succeed, we must, of course, describe in some detail the nature of this choice problem. A problem of rational decision has a definite Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. 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However, even for this (most simplified) case, the debate regarding whether Rawls correctly inferred the principles hasn't ended (Gustafsson 2018). What about WOS's ideal deliberators' task? Here we have none of the simplifications Rawls enjoys. Ideal deliberators are supposed to represent "all the alternative perspectives present in the human population, including those of people yet unborn" (2011, 116). Kitcher makes clear that WOS (unlike Rawls' original position) is not restricted to the perspectives of the members of a single country (2011, 116-18). The reason for including people representing "all perspectives" has to do with the fact that WOS aims to balance the interests of all those answer only if we know the beliefs and interests of the parties, their relations with respect to one another, the alternatives between which they are to choose, the procedure whereby they make up their minds, and so on" (Rawls 1999, 16). Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. 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Although the emphasis placed by Kitcher (2011) on one-off decisions-e.g., supporting the Human Genome Project or not-might make the task of predicting ideal deliberators' answers look somewhat accessible, the fact of the matter remains that WOS' deliberators' task is a much more complex one. Thus, I see no reason to think that any individual might be able to predict this detailed hypothetical deliberation. Moreover, Kitcher himself-unlike Rawls' (1999)-doesn't provide us with the answers of WOS's deliberators. In fact, he acknowledges that in many cases it is "hard to predict" what ideal deliberators would decide (2011, 123). Now, as I mentioned, Kitcher does claim to know one particular answer, regarding the research projects of biomedicine. And he mentions it with the explicit intention of rejecting the claim that WOS is not action-guiding. However, I'll show that Kitcher's answer is not only insufficient for the task, but also underdetermined by WOS. The current state of biomedical research has been criticized for its disproportionate emphasis on treatments that mostly benefit well-off patients. This has been called the "10/90 gap" Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 14 (Flory and Kitcher 2004). Kitcher claims that ideal deliberators, in contrast with the prevalent 10/90 gap, would endorse "the fair-share principle. Waiving considerations of tractability, each disease should be investigated according to its contribution to the total suffering caused by disease" (2011, 122). 6 The idea of inferring the deliberators' choices by predicting normative principles endorsed by them (and use the principles to deduce the chosen projects when presented with the alternatives) seems more plausible than to go one by one through each of the research projects available. However, this proposal is not sufficient for the task at hand. It might be plausible to predict specific principles for priorities within each research area-like the fairshare principle. But we need more than that. We need to determine decisions about research projects both within and between research areas. Kitcher can suggest a simple principle for one area (biomedicine) because it may seem plausible to weigh all the pertinent research problems (say, solutions to diseases) of that area with a single metric of significance (in this case, "suffering caused by disease"). But simple principles are not possible when there are research problems to be compared that are of a radically different nature (e.g. education vs. 6 The strength of Kitcher's conviction regarding the fair-share principle shouldn't be underestimated: "Whether or not [WOS] is adopted, we maintain that a necessary condition for well-ordered science is that research [agenda]... should accord with the 'fair-share' principle" (Reiss and Kitcher 2009, 263 emphasis added). Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 15 health vs. cosmology). Which is the unique metric to be used? 7 Bear in mind that, under Kitcher's account, we cannot say that the unique metric is "well-being" defined by some objective standard. In constructing WOS, Kitcher has rejected this option, endorsing a subjectivist notion of well-being. Thus, though it would be possible to claim that between areas projects should be supported to the extent that they maximize well-being, it is not possible to infer the actual answers (we don't know what well-being is for each person). All said, this proposal is insufficient for giving us the complete ideal-answer. Even more damaging, successfully predicting principles seems doubtful even within areas. That ideal deliberators would arrive at (or choose according to) the fair-share principle cannot be determined only by drawing from WOS. There are a number of alternative principles that could plausibly be entertained and endorsed by WOS' ideal deliberators. First, Kitcher takes at face value that the only morally relevant metric is the total suffering caused by disease. This assumes a total utility approach. But he could as well have suggested that the research agenda should be biased in favor of diseases that affect people who are worst-off. Second, although Kitcher does not say how deliberators would balance 'tractability' and 7 As Weinberg commented in an analogous debate, once we have decided to centralize the priority decisions of all science (as WOS does), deliberators are faced with the task of "measuring the merit of incommensurable ... scientific fields ... on the same scale of values" (Weinberg 1963, 167). Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 16 'contribution to suffering', he suggests that 'tractability' should be seriously considered (2011, 122). This is, of course, a reasonable position, one that considers the efficiency of efforts. If treatment for sickness X is less likely (or costlier) to be discovered than for sickness Y, efficiency says society should invest more research efforts in Y than in X, all other things being equal. However, there are a number of areas in which (many) societies agree on each individual having an "equal claim" to some fundamental goods, and this is so regardless of the varying costs for attaining those fundamental goods for specific populations (i.e., regardless of efficiency). And health happens to be one such area. Since suffering X versus Y can usually be considered arbitrary from a moral point of view, it seems at least plausible for ideal deliberators to disregard 'tractability' considerations (perhaps until some limit) and invest equally in both treatments (according to an equal effort principle) or even more in treatment X (according to an equal expected results principle). The issue here is not the obvious point that there are alternative conceptions of justice that Kitcher might have considered. Rather, the issue is that there is nothing in WOS that allows Kitcher (nor anybody else) to anticipate one of the alternative conceptions of justice as the one chosen, and accordingly to derive principles for assigning priorities within disciplines that would match ideal deliberators' decisions. So, the biomedicine example that Kitcher offers as a proof of WOS's action guidance, I conclude, gives no plausibility to the idea that, via considering general principles within areas, we could predict the ideal deliberators' SRA. Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 17 Given the difficulty in predicting a-priori ideal deliberators' answers, an alternative might be to use mini-publics to predict them.8 I don't think this is possible. To be confident in predicting the answers, we need to replicate (to some reasonable degree) the procedure. It seems clear that this is not possible in Rawls' case, because many aspects of his original position are highly idealized. Thus, they are difficult to replicate empirically (e.g., the veil of ignorance, the high stakes of the decision, etc.). But the procedure depicted by Kitcher is also highly idealized and difficult to replicate. To be sure, the idealizations used by Kitcher are not the same as those used by Rawls-Kitcher doesn't use a veil of ignorance, and the stakes are not of the same kind. But Kitcher's idealizations are not much more (and arguably even less) replicable. Let me mention the two most salient: (i) Kitcher says that his ideal deliberators are expected to represent each and every interest (world-wide, current and future) affected by SRA. This, as argued by Goodin (2007), entails that all interests need to be represented: when the decisions to be taken are such that may affect every interest, then every interest is in fact affected. This idealization (i.e., representing all the perspectives) seems, to say the least, hard to replicate to a reasonable degree. 8 Thanks to an anonymous referee for pressing this point. This possibility, to be clear, is different from taking WOS to be an ideal-procedure, where the idealized procedure is the normative standard we aim at, not an idealized method to predict the actual normative standard. Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 18 (ii) Kitcher describes his idealized deliberators as follow. "Built in to the ideal of discussion under mutual engagement are cognitive and affective constraints ... the ideal conversationalists are to have a wide understanding of the various lines of research, what they might accomplish, how various findings would affect others, how those others adjust their starting preferences, and the conversationalists are dedicated to promoting the wishes other participants eventually form" (2011, 113). It is hard to see how this cognitive idealization-all parties are expected to have a wide understanding of the various lines of research- can be empirically replicated. And the affective idealization seems even more implausible to replicate-all parties are expected to dedicate themselves to promote the wishes of others. We can, of course, actually conduct mini-publics trying to emulate to some degree (quite minimum, to be sure) these idealizations. But, given the idealized circumstances "built in to the ideal discussion" by Kitcher, we cannot be confident in empirically predicting the ideal deliberators' answers. 6. Conclusion. Kitcher, like Rawls (1999), understands WOS as a hypothetical deliberative procedure, the conclusions of which we should aim at. This makes WOS a normative standard of the kind I call an "ideal-answer". I've argued here that, since those answers cannot be known, WOS provides no identifiable ideal research agenda as a benchmark against which we can assess Copyright The Philosophy of Science Association 2019. Preprint (not copyedited or formatted). Please use DOI when citing or quoting. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1086/707539 This content downloaded from 131.111.223.065 on February 21, 2020 03:08:01 AM All use subject to University of Chicago Press Terms and Conditions (http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/t-and-c). 19 the research agenda of real-world science. 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