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Form and Argument
in Late Plato
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MARGARET M c C A B E
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Space, Time, Shape, and Direction:
Creative Discourse in the Timaeus
CATHERINE OSBORNE
In this chapter, I explore the parallel between the shape of
Timaeus' discourse in Plato's dialogue and the shape of the
world that he describes. There is, plainly, an analogy between
Timaeus' act of describing a world in words and the demiurge's
task of making a world of matter.1 This analogy implies a parallel
between language as a system of reproducing ideas in words,
and the world, which reproduces reality in particular things. It
becomes clear that authority lies not in the retelling of a truth
already told, nor in the description of a world already made, but
in the creation of a likeness in words of the eternal Forms. The
Forms serve as paradigms both for the physical world created by
the demiurge, and for the world in discourse created by Timaeus:
his discourse gains its validity not from faithfulness to the way
things appear, or the way particular things 'actually happened',
but in virtue of its attempt to express in words a likeness of the
perfect and eternal reality.
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CLARENDON PRESS • OXFORD
1996
This parallel between universe and discourse is also noted by P. Hadot,
'Physique et poesie dans le Timee de Platon', Revue de Theologie et de
Philosophic, 115 (1983), 113—33; R- Brague, 'The Body of the Speech: A New
Hypothesis on the Compositional Structure of Timaeus' Monologue', in D. J.
O'Meara, ed., Platonic Investigations (Washington, 1985), 58—83; and L.
Brisson, 'Le Discours comme univers et 1'univers comrne discours: Platon et ses
interpretes neoplatoniciens', in Le Texte et ses representations, Etudes de
litterature ancienne, iii (Paris, 1987), 121—8.
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I. Tales from the Past
The Timaeus opens with a discussion between Socrates and his
friends about how to flesh out the description of the ideal republic
that Socrates had offered the previous day. Four features of this
opening discussion suggest a concern with the kind of authority
attributable to a spoken discourse. One is the stress on the distance
in time between past and present; the second is the emphasis on
the number of times that a narrative has been retold in the
intervening time; a third is the concern with whether the discourse
tells of genuine historical facts, and what is the nature of the
authority of poets and sophists who tell of these; the fourth is the
interest in the extent to which language can accurately express a
particular level of reality.
Talk of Yesterday
At Republic 592a-b, Glaucon speaks of the ideal state just
described as 'the city we have just gone through the building of,
the city that exists in words'. Throughout the Republic, Socrates
speaks as if the participants in the dialogue were engaged in
founding a real city, and as if its institutions were established and
put to work there and then in the process of describing them in
words. There is a remarkable absence of any distinction between
the reality and its portrait in words.2 At the start of the Timaeus,
j y c i — igbz, by contrast, when Socrates and his companions recall
the description of the republic that they had heard the day before,
there is a self-conscious distance marked out between the present
telling and that of which it told. This distance emerges in the
repeated mention of what had taken place in the past, in the
references to the discussion of the previous day,3 and in Critias'
interest in recounting events
2
Remarkable not least because the Republic (R.) itself raises the issue of imitation in art and literature, while Socrates within the dialogue is portrayed as
marking no significant distinction between portrayal and portrayed.
3
Note the repeated references to 'yesterday' by contrast both to today and to
long ago. The word xQts ('yesterday') occurs twelve times in the first ten pages of
the dialogue: 1732, bz, ci, 1937, 2obi, c6, 2562, 2634, 37, b4, c8, 67. See C.
Osborne, 'Topography in the Timaeus', Proceedings of the Cambridge Philological
Society, 214 (1988), 104—14: 106 and 107.
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of distant history as an illustration of the reality of which the
Republic had spoken.
Retelling the Tales
This attention to tales from past history is matched by an interest
in the telling and retelling of those tales, which raises the question
of the authority of the speaker and his access to the events of
which he tells. In the first place, Socrates tells of his city by
recapitulating an earlier telling, thereby putting us at several
removes from the reality of which the original discussion was an
account.4 His retelling of the Republic is a report in spoken words
(spoken, of course, in the dramatic fiction, written as we read them
in the pages of the Timaeus), as was the Republic itself. Again and
again, in the opening dialogue, we are reminded that Socrates is
recapitulating not the thing but the spoken words. He starts with a
reference to 'the words spoken by me yesterday'.5 Instead of
reminding us how the ideal state functions, Socrates recalls what
he said about how it functioned. The discourse is recalled in
reported speech throughout, and thirteen allusions are made, by
Socrates or his interlocutor, to the fact that the words were
spoken.6 What stands between the present audience and the reality
described is a sequence of spoken accounts. In the retelling of the
discourse of the Republic, Socrates has himself put an additional
layer of representation between the present account and the ideal it
portrayed, a layer absent in the city founded in the Republic; and
4
'Yesterday's conversation' described at the start of the Timaeus (Ti.) need not
be R. itself. A. E. Taylor (A Commentary on Plato's 'Timaeus' (Oxford, 1928))
assumes that it is, inferring that the original conversation (recounted in R. as
having happened 'yesterday') took place two days before Ti., and that the
unnamed audience in R. is the group of people present the previous day in Ti.
Socrates refers to 'words spoken by himself, i7ci-2, implying that the report
had been a monologue. In R. Socrates is sole narrator, but he does report the
contributions of others. In any case, Ti. puts us at more than one remove from
the original conversation reported in R.
5
I7ci —2. Translations are my own throughout.
6
Terms that explicitly refer to verbal discourse: 'The words spoken by me',
i7c i — 2; 'spoken', i?C4; 'we said', i?d2; 'we said', 1835; 'It was said', i8bi, b8; 'it
was said', i8cs; 'the things that were said', i8c7; 'as you say', i8d6; 'we said',
i8d8, 1931; 'the things that were spoken', 1939; 'what wss said', I9bi. Other
terms also imply the same distance between description and reslity, e.g. 'we
recalled', i8ci.
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that may explain why he finds the description lifeless and
unreal, and hopes that it can be made more vivid.7
Critias' tale of Atlantis has, however, had a longer tradition of
being told and retold. Whereas Socrates' story was from the day
before yesterday, this one is from ancient times; it was, it
emerges, once told by Solon, who narrated it in the days of
Critias' great-grandfather Dropides to the young Critias,
grandfather of the present Critias, who later, as an old man,
repeated it to the lo-year-old boy Critias, who is now recalling it
in his manhood or old age.8 Generations have passed since this
tale was originally devised, and again attention is focused on the
distance between the present discourse and the reality9 that the
tale describes, not least by the device of multiplying the number of
previous tellings. In this case, the last recorded narration began
'yesterday' (2oc6, 2637) and was recapitulated at greater length
and in more detail earlier 'this morning'.10
Perhaps even more significant is the stress on language. We
are never allowed to forget that each telling of the tale was in
words: however far we go back, access to these historical events
of the past was always through discourse. The Greeks are said to
be too young to have direct experience of the distant past, and to
have developed too late to have written records, whereas the
7
igb. Thus, although it emerges that the recounting of particular experience
will not make the lifeless account any more lifelike, the retelling of an earlier story,
being parallel to the making of images of particulars in the world, puts a tale 3t a
further remove from reality. Hence the recapitulation of R. is disadvantaged
more than the original.
8
2ody—64, 2137—bi. Note that the chronology, if accurate, would make it
impossible that the present Critias should be the same Critias 3s was involved
with the Thirty Tyrants in 411 BC. J. K. Davies, Athenian Propertied Families
600-300 BC (Oxford, I9y i), 325, suggests that Plato has telescoped five generations to three. If I am right that the force of the present passage involves maximizing the number of tellings and the distance in time from the original telling, it
seems far more plausible that the present Critias is the grandfather of the tyrant,
portrayed here as an old man. See W. Welliver, Character, Plot and Thought in
Plato's 'Timaeus'—'Critias' (Leiden, igyy), app. A, 50-7.
9
Both Critias and Socrates are strongly committed to the claim that this tale
portrays real fact, that the history is true, 2od8, 2135, d8, 2664-5. But note that
this does not make the reality appear closer to the account now being offered. On
the contrary, we are acutely aware of the distance, both in time and in the
proliferation of intervening narrators.
10
26ay-b2, 03-5. In this respect, it is the mirror image of Socrates' discourse,
which was told at greater length yesterday and recapitulated more briefly today.
Critias is also due to tell the tale more fully again in the Critias.
3
Egyptians do have written records which are the origin of the
narrative that Critias is to tell (2331-5, as-c3). In either case, the
tale is transmitted in words, whether spoken or written; even the
Egyptians claim access to this period of history only via the written
temple records. As in Socrates' recapitulation of the previous
day's conversation, here again, in Critias' summary of his ancient
tale, the references to verbal narration are peculiarly frequent.11
Thus if the problem with Socrates' account of the Republic was
that the retelling made the verbal portrait less immediate, that
problem is scarcely resolved in the long oral tradition of Critias'
tale.
Poetry and the True Facts of History
Socrates expresses himself dissatisfied with his picture of the
ideal state, comparing himself to someone who sees some fine
creatures 'wrought by penwork'12 but lacking life and motionless;
or creatures that were alive but not seen in action.13 Yet he would
not prefer a description offered by a poet (or, for that matter, a
sophist): he says that, while poets are fine at imitation, at
representing things within their own experience (igd), the lifelike
representation of his ideal city is not that sort of task. It involves
dealing with something beyond one's own familiar upbringing,
and 'the imitative tribe' of poets would set about the task in the
wrong way, presumably because imitation is not the right
approach if the subject is not available for imitation.14
11
logos: 2odi, dy, 2iay, cs, da, dy, ey, 2235, 2635, cs, dy, 65, ey. The verb
legein: zodz, e2, 2134, 35, b$, dy, d8, 2235, a6, b2, b6, C4, cy, es, 23cy, 2401,
2 a
5 3, a5, 62, 63, 64, 2633, 35, b3, C4, c6, d3, d4, ey. Other verbs for speaking:
2ib y, e8, zzb%, 23d2, d4, ds, 24ey, 2sdy, ei, es, 2631, ay, cs, d2. References to
writing: 2334, ay, C3, 63, 64, 2431, dy, ei. Terms of hearing and listening: 2561,
62, b4, b6, c i, cy, 2yai. Thus we have, in seven Stephanus pages, seventy-one
references to the narrative as written, spoken, and heard.
12
VTTO yparftijs elpyaafjLfva, I9b6. I translate ypa<f>rj as 'penwork' because it can
mean either drawing or writing. It is worth noting the imagery of art, whether
literary or visual, and also the demiurgic terminology ('wrought').
13
I9b6—y. Notice that here alone is there any reference to visual images.
Throughout the rest of the introduction the references are to hearing, and to
verbal descriptions. Socrates does not, pace Taylor (Commentary on Plato's
'Timaeus', 13), want to 'see a picture of a community like his ideal'; on the contrary
he wants to hear a description, I9C3.
14
'What occurs outside the range of each person's upbringing, that is difficult
enough to imitate in practice, but even harder to imitate well in words' (igde).
'Imitation' seems to be confined to the representation of the particular.
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Thus, although Socrates compares his own description of the
ideal state to a kind of picture, what he actually requires to
supplement it appears to be not a picture of how things are or
were, but a different kind of verbal contribution, one based not
merely on prior experience of historical facts but on a general
skill in philosophy and politics.15
Plato seems to be contrasting two kinds of authoritative discourse. One kind seeks to picture faithfully something from the
past, offering a correct account of the way things actually happened. The other seeks to bring a living model into being here and
now, an image of the ideal that is as immediate as any experience to
which it might correspond. But Critias' tale of Atlantis, though
offered as a contribution to Socrates' project, seems not to meet
the second kind of criterion for authority. It is not a new
contribution by experts in philosophy and politics, but it traces its
authority to the work of a poet. The list of named narrators starts
with Solon: the first thing that Critias tells us is that the occasion
on which his grandfather told him the tale was the festival of the
Apatouria, in which the children competed in reciting poetry.
Many chose to recite the poems of Solon, which were a novelty at
the time, and it is in this context, where Solon figures as poet, not
as statesman, that Solon's telling of the tale is mentioned (21 be).
Indeed, grandfather Critias' view was that, had Solon devoted his
energies entirely to poetry instead of treating it as a trivial pursuit,
and had he been able to put this story into verse instead of being
diverted by political problems, he would have outshone even
Homer and Hesiod ( 2 i b i — d3). So it was Solon as poet who first
narrated the tale. Given that Socrates had, only a page before,
expressed the view that poets were unsuited to the present task,
and that he needed instead a philosophically aware politician such
as Timaeus, it can hardly be accidental that Critias immediately
responds by casting back to the work of a poet and, moreover, by
implying that the poet's expertise in politics, so far from
improving the quality of the narrative, had distracted the poet and
prevented him from making something of the tale.
What are we to make of this invocation of the authority of a
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See 2oa6-bi. The task involves speaking, i7bs-6, I9C2-8, 2obi-y. Socrates
specifies each time that he requires a verbal description, a discourse or logos
(IQC3, 2ob3, ci).
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poet? It seems possible, but unlikely, that Plato is using Critias to
undermine the view initially expressed by Socrates (i9d3-e2), that
poets were unsuited to the task and could only portray that which
was within their own experience; the alternative seems more
promising, that Plato means us to see that Critias' tale is
inadequate. Yet it is not immediately clear what makes it
inadequate.16 Socrates had dismissed the poets for speaking only
(or mainly) of that which is within their own experience, and it is
plain that Critias claims for his tale a correspondence with the way
that things really happened. It harks back to something that was 'a
deed not merely told but really done'.17 Despite Socrates' apparent
enthusiasm, at 2662-2731, for the true history of Atlantis, we are
left with the impression that it does not live up to his demands in
the way that Timaeus' tale tries to do, even though Timaeus, at
2gdz, aligns his own tale with the genre of myth from which
Critias' historical narrative had been carefully distinguished
(2664). However true Critias' account of historical events may be,
it clearly will not thereby be a more accurate portrait of the perfect
city, which, as we learnt in the Republic, may exist as a paradigm
in heaven or only as a description in words, but whose significance
does not depend on locating an example in space and time on earth
(R. 592b4).
Levels of Discourse
Critias' summary of the tale of Atlantis delays the introduction of
Timaeus' contribution, which was to have been the first of the
three friends' presentations. The effect of this digression is to
contrast the narrative offered by Critias with the discourse about to
be offered by Timaeus. Whereas Critias' tale had been the result of
a long oral tradition, Timaeus' story is about to receive its first
telling. Whereas Critias' concern was to remember the words he
heard in his youth (26a-b), Timaeus, with the help of the gods,
aims to communicate the contents of his own thoughts.18 His is not
a story that has been told before; it is to
16
See C. Gill, 'The Genre of the Atlantis Story', Classical Philology, 72 (1977),
287-304, esp. 287-91.^
17
18
tpyov TOVTO . . . ov Xeyofjifvov ^ev, (1)S 8e TTpa\6ev OVTCOS . . . , 2135.
'We must call on all the gods and goddesses and pray that everything we say
will be in accord with their intention and similarly with ours too. Let that be our
prayer to the gods, but we must also invoke what is our own, whereby
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be newly 'created' for this occasion by the philosopher, statesman,
and scientist Timaeus (27C4).19
At the start of his speech, Timaeus claims that the status of an
account is related to the status of that to which it refers, or, as he
says, that which it interprets: 'We must make the same distinction
concerning the image and concerning its pattern, in that words are
themselves akin to the things that they are interpreting' (29b3~5).
The point concerns the status of his own account: an account that
interprets a subject that has permanent being can have the same
permanence as the subject to which it correlates, in so far as it is
possible for words to serve this role and to be immune to
correction.20 Words that interpret the realm of becoming, as
Timaeus' words are to do, will have a degree of likelihood; they
will be subject to revision like the subject-matter to which they are
correlated. The notion of likelihood, coupled here with
incorrigibility, might be taken to suggest that the account is only
probable and might be either false or true. In Timaeus' tale,
however, it seems to be linked with the idea that the story is not a
candidate for truth, but an example or icon; it deliberately
fabricates a new likeness that only partially resembles reality. It is
'likely', then, in a rather special sense, in which the term conveys
the degree to which it is likened to, or exemplifies, the original
rather than the probability regarding whether it might be true or
false.21
Where in Plato's hierarchy does poetry, and the kind of narrative offered, fit? In the Republic, poetry had been condemned as
a mere copy of the particular (R. 5953—6o2c). Here, we find a
similar criticism of poets (skilled primarily in the representation
of experience) at i gd-e, but a further problem is also envisaged, in
the retelling of a tale. A narrative may be a copy by you may learn and
I may teach as well as possible in accordance with my own views on the subject in
question' (27c6—d4).
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Note the reference to Timaeus' expertise in astronomy and physics, 2733—4.
Cf. 196.
20
2Qb7-8. Note that here Timaeus appears to recognize that there may be a
problem about describing eternal reality in words. Clearly, language cannot in fact
be wholly timeless and changeless to match the Forms.
21
The conventional translation of the term as 'likely' captures this notion only if
we stress the connection with 'likeness'; it seems that 'exemplary' might serve as a
better translation, since the world exemplifies the forms, and the story exemplifies
the ways things are, just to the extent that it serves as a moderately close
illustration of how the paradigm might be instantiated.
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being a repetition of words originally spoken by someone else.
Poetic discourse does not simply copy things, but seems also be
problematic in its tendency to recite words; merely reciting or
repeating the words of another will not guarantee the authority of
the spoken or written words.
Plato seems to be working with two, or perhaps three, parallel
hierarchies. First, there is an ontological hierarchy of Forms and
copies and copies of copies, and, secondly, there is a matching
hierarchy of discourse, in which the top rank is occupied by the
discourse concerning unchanging reality, the second level by
discourse that relates to the world of becoming, while the bottom
rung belongs to the recitation of the traditional narratives of
poetry. Recitation emerges as a focus of the opening contrast
between Critias and Timaeus, and this ties in with the implicit
claim that any discourse gains its credibility not from the correct
representation of particular things, but from its place in the
hierarchy of levels of discourse that matches the ontological
hierarchy of its subjects. Reciting the words of poetry moves the
discourse to one further remove from the reality that is the sole
source of authority.
We may also suggest, thirdly, that the ontological hierarchy is
matched by an epistemological hierarchy of truth, for Timaeus
appears to allude to the idea that, as being is to becoming, so truth
is to belief (Ti. 2QC2); the latter contrast seems to belong with
the terminology of the divided line in the Republic (5iid-e).
Unlike the notion of truth employed in describing Critias'
historical narrative as true, this is a sense in which entities such as
the Forms partake of truth, and thereby convey clarity and
reliability to the corresponding cognitive state and, here, also to
the matching realm of discourse. Discourse itself seems to be a
candidate for reliability but not for truth, which is a feature
attributable to the permanent entities to which reliable discourse
relates, or, by extension perhaps, to the cognitive state associated
with them.
At the start of the Critias, after Timaeus has finished his
speech, Critias suggests that all language is a type of picture or
imitation of things.22 'The things we all say are bound to be an
22
fj.ifj.T)aiv fj,ev yap STJ KO.I aTreiKaaiav TO. Ttapa TTO.VTWV •fjfjiiav prjOevra \pf(j>v
The simple view that a statement represents a fact (either an existent
fact or a non-existent one) is challenged and revised in the Sophist,
TTOV yeveaQoLi.
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imitation and indeed a picture', he says (Criti. io7b5~7). Critias
sees that language appears to say things about the facts in the
world, and that words can pick out or picture items in the world.
He thinks of this relationship between things and what we say
about them on the supposition that the things are the primary
entities, available independently and directly as it were to our
experience, and the words can represent them as a picture
represents a scene. The independent set of objects must be
available for discourse to portray, and serve as a standard to which
we can appeal in judging the likeness it achieves. Critias suggests
that we judge the value of a verbal description exactly as we
would a representation in the visual arts, by assessing the accuracy
of its likeness to the original. In these circumstances the task of
one who portrays the gods or nature is, he claims, easier than the
task of one who would portray human features, because the
listener will have less competence, in the case of theology and
nature, to judge how good the likeness is, because we are less
familiar with the way that the facts are, independently of the
description we have to assess (Criti. loybs—63).
Clearly, Critias still, even after hearing Timaeus' tale, assumes
that discourse, if it is to be worth having, must accurately portray
historical events from experience. In emphasizing the idea that
discourse is a picture of the particular things to which it
corresponds in the world Critias is shown to differ from Timaeus
on the criterion for the success of such discourse. For Critias, the
discourse must be true to its particular facts. For Timaeus, an
account that describes things that have the status of particular
things and events can never be reliable, and that kind of historical
truth is irrelevant to its value. The discourse that has 'likelihood',
that exemplifies what has permanent being but at the level of the
particular, is the one worth aspiring to. Timaeus, too, thinks in
terms of creating an image, but not, as Critias implied, an
imitation or portrait (mimesis or apeikasia, Criti. iojb^—6) of
some particular items, but an icon
where the distinction between parts of speech enables Socrates to show that a
statement may name a subject, and say something about it with predicate terms
that do not name other entities. Nevertheless, the truth of a statement still depends
upon whether the facts are independently as the statement describes them. See
also Politicus aSsdg—28637 and G. E. L. Owen, 'Plato on the Undepictable', in E.
N. Lee, A. Mourelatos, and R. Rorty, eds., Exegesis and Argument (Assen, 1973),
349-61.
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(eikon) which presents a new vision of the world modelled on
the Forms.23 The criterion for worth of the discourse lies not in a
good match with an independently observed set of particular
facts and things, but in its modelling of our world on the Forms. It
does not picture facts but moulds reality to a likeness that
exemplifies the Forms.
On Timaeus' account, then, the match between the words and
the world to which they correspond is not accidental; but it need
not derive from an attempt to picture that world in discourse. It
may derive from the fact that the things in the world get their
relation to the Forms in just the same way as discourse gets its
relation to the Forms, or that the world is modelled on an
intelligible paradigm, and so is the world expressed in our
language. Hence, it will be unsurprising that the intelligible
paradigm instantiated in words will coincide with, and meticulously describe, the intelligible paradigm instantiated in matter.
But it remains a possibility, on Timaeus' account, that the
description in words may help us to see the world as an intelligible image, no less than that the world enables us to judge that
the discourse is valid. Things have no priority over words as the
principal and authoritative example of intelligible reality; we do
not need to compare the words with some previously known and
experienced things; indeed the discourse may direct us to see the
world as matching up to the story, rather than the reverse.
Timaeus' account is manifold and lacking in perfect consistency, because it relates to changing things in the world of
becoming (2QC5-6), but it is also exemplary or 'likely' in its ability
to fashion a likeness or image of an eternal being.24 It would,
therefore, be irrelevant to look at the things to check the accuracy of the account; it would retain the same exemplary status
even supposing that there were no actual world to correspond.
Discourse about the Forms is invariable and reliable, but not in
the sense in which Critias claimed that his story was historical
and true, on the assumption that we could check it against the
facts. For Timaeus, the reliability of discourse at the level of
23
29b3~c2; cf. 29d2, 92C7.
29b3-d3. What is at issue is the status of the correlated subject-matter, as
permanent being, or likeness and becoming, not whether there is an independent
reality for the discourse to be referring to.
24
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the Forms, in so far as it is possible, derives from the consistency and permanence of the Forms, their genuine truth. He does
not imply that we could stand back from both and see the Forms
independently to assess the accuracy of the match, any more than
he suggests that we should assess the accuracy of the match
between his story of a world and the facts. The reliability stems
not from the close match between one set of entities and a set of
corresponding descriptions, a match which is presumably either
inevitable or irrelevant, but from the nature of the truths that are
embodied, to an equal degree, in the facts and in the discourse. In
this sense, language is not really 'about' something available as a
separate item in our experience. Since the credibility of the
discourse depends on its exemplification of the Forms, discourse
about particulars could have the same degree of credibility even
when there happened not to be an event or state of affairs to
match. Then, the discourse would be 'likely', exemplifying
reality, just as it is when there does happen to correspond a
matching state of affairs.
There is, of course, a possibility that the world that Timaeus
describes might cease to exist. Timaeus says (38b-c) that the
heavens and world-soul will remain in perpetuity, though they
could, in theory, come to an end; while the mortal creatures are
less permanent than the world-soul, 4ib-d. Evidently, for
Timaeus the non-existence of the world would not alter the value
of his discourse, while it would alter the truth-value of the
discourse in Critias' view, since for him it would be true if and
only if there is such a world in reality.
It is clear that the four ways in which Timaeus' tale is contrasted with the alternatives offered at the start of the Timaeus are
closely related. The distance in time between the events
described and the present telling of the tale assumes importance
because it enables us to appreciate the place of language in the
repetition of tales from an authority in the past. It shows that
retelling a tale in the words of a past speaker cannot give greater
authority to the words. This observation is then tied to the fact
that the experience of historical facts and events on the part of
the present speaker or his distant authority is not relevant to the
value of the discourse as an expression of the world of truth and
25
See n. 20 above.
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being. It emerges instead that a discourse that imitates or repeats a
story or a world already made will itself be at a further remove
from the genuine reality. Timaeus' story gains its credibility from
the fact that it is neither traditional, nor historical or descriptive of
the facts, but exemplary, 'likely', an image of something more
eternal.
II. The Story of One World
Clearly, Timaeus' verbal account of the world must itself
belong to the realm of becoming, and, like the world it describes,
it occupies a place in time and space, it has a beginning and an
end, and it is the work of a craftsman, a craftsman of discourse
who aims to produce the best possible, given the limitations of
his circumstances and materials, with his eyes on a model that is
intelligible and true, just as the maker of the world is said to do
(2836—bz). Timaeus' account of the cosmos occupies a position
in the Timaeus—Critias group analogous to the position occupied
by the physical world in relation to reality as a whole.26 Timaeus
himself, who creates the world in discourse, clearly stands in the
same relation to his 'best possible' story (29cy) as the demiurge
does to his 'best possible' world (3032-7; cf. 92C5~9). Like the
world created by the demiurge, Timaeus' story is unique. It is the
only story that Timaeus tells, and this is his only appearance in
Platonic dialogue.27
In 31 a2—b3 Timaeus explores the reasons why there must be
only one cosmic system,28 modelled on the perfect paradigm.
The reasoning is based on something like the Third Man argument:
26
Timaeus' story is the main speech in Ti. but it is framed (in Ti.-Criti.) by the
two versions of Critias' 'true history of Atlantis'. This means that Timaeus'
creation is central and finite, framed by an account that claims greater reliability
and truth; it is also focused outside itself as a mere preliminary to matters of
political practice, as argued in Osborne, 'Topography', 107.
27
Apart, that is, from the opening paragraph of Criti. (icai-by), where he
concludes his creation account.
28
The word is ouranos, which signifies a geocentric world including the
heavenly spheres, sun, moon, planets, fixed stars, and so on. It is perhaps misleading to translate the term as 'universe', since we might suppose that there
could be one universe containing a number of such systems of spheres. Timaeus'
point is that there can only be one world.
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Were we right to say that there was one cosmic system, or would it be
more correct to speak of several or an infinite number? One, if it is to be
created according to the paradigm. What encompasses all conceivable
creatures could never be one of two. For there would have to be another
creature, the one comprising those two, of which those two would be
part, and then this world would more accurately be said to be modelled
not so much on those two but on that one that encompasses them. Hence,
in order that this world may be like the all-perfect creature in its solitude,
for this reason the maker made not two nor an infinite number of worlds,
but this is the one and only unique cosmic system that has or ever will
come into being. (3ia2-b3)
Timaeus' point is this: there can be only one paradigm for a world,
for that paradigm is to be complete, encompassing all the
possibilities that are intelligible. In the event that there were two
models available, the complete model would be that which
comprised the two. In that event, clearly the best possible world
would have to be modelled on the more complete paradigm, not
on one of the two subordinate models; and, since we are
describing the best work of a good creator, it could only be a
representative of the more perfect of the available models.
Why should there not be more than one likeness of a single
paradigm? Supposing there is one perfect paradigm of a cosmic
system, would it not be better that the craftsman, if he is good,
should produce as many copies as possible of the single model?
Timaeus' response is that the copy is to resemble its model in
being unique, as well as everything else. The model must be
unique to be complete and perfect, and, if the copy aims to
resemble it as closely as possible, it had better resemble it in this
respect too.29
Timaeus repeats the claim that the world is unique at 34b6:
'And he established one single and solitary universe, spherical and
rotating, but capable by reason of its excellence of keeping itself
to itself and needing no other, and indeed being enough of a friend
and acquaintance of its own.' It seems clear from this that solitude
is regarded as an excellence, and the need for company or plurality
a sign of weakness. This explains why
29
We might say that Timaeus ignores the distinction between paradigms and
particulars: in the case of paradigms, it seems evident that there could not be two
exactly alike, but in material worlds there might be two numerically different but
exactly alike.
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Timaeus takes it that it is better that there should be just one
unique world. Uniqueness is one of the perfections of the perfect
paradigm.
Need Timaeus' account be unique in the same way? Timaeus
makes two points on this issue. He observes that the subjectmatter is plural and hence the descriptions will be plural (2QC47). This does not mean that there will be more than one account
of the same world, nor that there will be a number of accounts of
possible worlds. He means that the single cosmos is itself plural.
'Gods and the creation of the universe' are 'many things' (29C4),
and the description of them will evidently be, in a sense, a number
of descriptions, a number of logoi. Given these plural
descriptions, there may be a problem of consistency (29c6):
ideally, we should seek an account that is fully coherent
throughout; but that will not be possible when we are dealing
with a plural and changing world. There is to be a plurality of
logoi, then, but only in the same way that our one universe is
plural. Both world and word have the same kind of uniqueness in
so far as they are the best possible image of intelligible reality.
Timaeus' second point is that we are to be satisfied so long as
his descriptions are 'second to none in likelihood'.30 His account
does not claim to be accurate in virtue of a correspondence to the
way that things actually happened, but it is to be unbeaten as an
example, most 'likely' (zgc^—7). As in the case of the world itself,
it is clear that another account of equal value might be possible,
but it would have no advantage over the present one: it too would
be merely exemplary, and no better as an example than the
present account. Hence, there can be no advantage in producing
two descriptions, just as there could be no advantage to the
demiurge in producing two worlds modelled with equal likeness
to the eternal paradigm. Thus, Timaeus concludes that, given the
exemplary story, there will be 'no need to look any further'
(zgd^).
The description of the world must resemble the world it
describes not only in its uniqueness. Like its subject, it occupies a
position in time and space, and several features suggest that the
orderly arrangement of Timaeus' description matches the
30
'But it would be right to be tolerant so long as we offer likely accounts that are
no worse than any other' (zgcy-S).
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orderly arrangement of the world itself. In both cases, the image
is constructed to be as complete and orderly as it can be, given
the material (matter for the world, words for the discourse) out of
which each is created. In what follows, I shall consider the
resemblance between the account and the world it describes
under three headings: time, shape, and matter.
Time
In the Timaeus, the world is described as if it had a beginning in
time. What has a beginning is the ordered structure that the
demiurge produces; in fact, both the world-soul and the worldbody have a beginning in time, the former earlier than the latter.31
Three things have no beginning: one is the demiurge himself,
about whose age and origins we are told little;32 a second is the
paradigm to which the craftsman looks in modelling his world;
and the third is the material out of which he models the likeness.
These permanent things are not the subject of the account,
however, and, as we shall see, there are reasons why they cannot
properly be the subject of Timaeus' account.
Timaeus' account is concerned with what does have a beginning, and it is not surprising that the beginning of his tale is
concerned with the beginning of the universe. The first question is
to be about beginnings: 'As regards the whole universe— or world
or whatever other name it might appropriately receive, let us name
it that—we must first consider that subject which must always
arise at the beginning of everything, namely, whether it always
was, and had no beginning of becoming, or whether it came into
being, having begun from some beginning' (28b2-7). In the
temporal arrangement of Timaeus' discourse, the first topic is the
temporal beginning of the world;33 the question whether the world
began precedes discussion of anything else, and Timaeus
explicitly observes that such a
31
3^10-3531. Timaeus remarks that his account fails to correspond, in its
temporal order, to the temporal order of the creation of the world itself.
32
See n. 53 below, on the difficulty of speaking of this subject.
33
The material basis of the world will be a later topic, not because it is temporally subsequent, but because the spatial structure of the account will place
the fundamental material in the central body of the discourse. See Sect. II,
'Space and Shape', below. Timaeus' talk of an arche here refers to the temporal
beginning, not to any material stuff such as the early Presocratics had sought.
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question has to come first. Whether the world also has an end is a
different, though related, issue which is raised in the course of
Timaeus' treatment of time (380-396), where we learn that time
and the universe are contemporaneous: they come into existence together and will perish together if they perish at all.
Thus, the world cannot have an end 'in time'; its end would be
the end of time. But time is the temporal model of eternity and
resembles eternity as closely as possible, specifically by having
everlasting existence, though not, of course, the timeless being
of eternity.
Timaeus' discourse about the world also has a temporal
structure, and deals with one thing after another; like the world, it
starts with the beginning of time, which coincides with the
beginning of the world. But what happens at the end of his
story? Clearly it will not describe the end of time nor the end of
the world, since no such end is envisaged,34 although presumably
the possibility of discourse, like the possibility of time, would
end at the end of the world. But Timaeus' discourse does not reach
an end in the Timaeus. The dialogue ends before Timaeus ends
his speech (his final words form the opening of the next
dialogue); and his discourse is complete not because it sees the
world to its end but because it sees the world to its completion. His
discourse is complete because it has described the full contents of
the world (92C4~9), not because it has described the whole of
time. In this sense, Timaeus' speech does not come to an end at all
within the dialogue itself, just as the world will not come to an
end within time.
Two other features reinforce the idea that the temporal
structure of the discourse matches the structure of time itself.
One is the lack of available time for discussing eternity. At 38b
Timaeus observes that it is not the right moment 'in the present
time' to go into an accurate discussion of matters to do with
eternity.35 Doubtless, this is partly because the proper subject
for today's discourse is the temporal model, not the eternity to
which it aspires. But it is no accident that we find ourselves in
34
The world is not wholly indestructible, but is indestructible by anyone
besides its maker (32C2-4). It is also ageless and not subject to disease (3337-8).
35
'This would probably not be an appropriate moment to go into precise details
on these matters at the present time' (fv TunrapovTi). Cf. 38d6 where it would
take too much time to record the details of heavenly motions.
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'the present', a temporal situation in which precision about eternity
is not a suitable target.
The other feature is a problem about language. Timaeus
mentions a number of features of our language about time that fail
in respect to eternity. Not only are we in the habit of misusing the
tensed verbs 'was', 'is', and 'will be' to refer to the eternal, when
they should strictly be used only of what is subject to change over
time.36 We also sometimes use the tenseless 'is' in phrases that
refer to past, present, and future changes and to what does not
exist.37 These problems with our ordinary language indicate that
normal discourse is not well suited to dealing with what is
timeless; and one possible explanation of this is that discourse, like
the world, is inherently temporal. It may struggle to capture
eternity, just as the world struggles to resemble the eternal
paradigm; but the best it will do is produce the language of
everlasting change, not a language that correctly describes the
timeless.
Space and Shape
Temporal considerations are not the only ones to surface in
Timaeus' discourse. In structuring his account, he also uses spatial
metaphors. These envisage the account as something that has a
shape, and that moves forward or returns to its starting-point, just
as the heavens that it describes are circling in physical space.
Although the very beginning of Timaeus' discourse deals with
the question of the beginning of the world, this section is treated
as an overture, preliminary to the main melody;38 the main
discourse starts afresh at zgd'j with an account of the demiurge
and his motives in ordering the world for the best. This is the first
in a series of new beginnings identifiable in
36
3763—3838. In fact, Timaeus objects only to the past and future tenses,
which suggests that he does not clearly distinguish between the present tense 'is'
in 'was, is, and will be' and the untensed uses of 'is' to which he refers in the next
part of the sentence.
37
3838—b3. The use of the verb esti for what does not exist seems to be a
problem not about tenses but about being as such.
38
The musical metaphor is explicit, 29ds~6, and is, of course, another feature
of the analogy between discourse and subject-matter, since Timaeus will proceed
to deal with the harmonic intervals created in the world-soul,
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Timaeus' story; the other two returns to the beginning are
explicitly described as such. At 483—b the introduction of the
wandering cause requires that we go back to find a new beginning:
If one is to say how it [the universe] really came to be on these principles, one must add to the mixture the essence of the wandering cause as
well, how it is its nature to behave. So we must go back again, and adopt
a different beginning that is applicable to these things again, and, just as
before, when we dealt with the earlier things, so now, in connection with
these things we must begin from the beginning.
As in the earlier passage concerning the beginning (zSb), so here
again we meet the language of 'origin' or 'principle' (arche)
prominently.39 There, we sought an answer to the question of an
origin as such; in the second place, we sought that origin in the
maker and father who is 'most properly the origin'.40 Here, we seek
an origin or source of matter in the wandering cause. Finally, at
the third return to the starting-point (686—693), we shall be
reminded of the distinction between the two types of cause,
necessary and divine, which together serve as the 'material' out of
which the rest of the account is to be built (6936). In each case, it
seems that we return to a starting-point to collect some of the
building-blocks for an account of the world. Timaeus is building a
world out of the language of causes and explanations, just as the
demiurge built a world out of the materials that serve as those
causes: 'now that, like builders, we have the different kinds of
cause stacked ready as materials, out of which we have to
construct the rest of our account, let us return briefly to the start'
(6936—9). Timaeus speaks of 'going back'41 to the beginning, and
of 'making our way' to the same point as we set out from to come
here.42 The metaphors are of travel; the account is envisaged as a
path through space that has both distance and direction.43
Completing this route involves passing through the same point
more than once, though possibly not
39
Kar dp%ds, 4835; erepav dp\rjv, 48b2; air dp^-qs, 48b3. (These phrases are
untranslatable because they are ambigious as between causal principles and
temporal beginnings.) Cf. 48b7, 03, d i , d3, d$, e i , ez. KVpi(ardr^v, 2963. pijreov,
48bi; fnave\d(jjp.ev, 6938.
43
T€ eis ravrov Trop^vdw^tv odfv 8evpo dfiixofjieda, 69310.
Other examples of the motif of pathways are Ti. 5ic—d, 53C2,
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tracing precisely the same path on more than one occasion.44
There seem to be three possible explanations of the route taken in
this descriptive journey. One is that we are tracing and retracing a
circle which returns each time to the same point. But this would
involve covering the same route each time, and it is not clear that
Timaeus would suggest that we had taken the same route in
investigating necessity and the divine, and in completing the
account with both causes in play. An alternative is that the route
forms a rectilinear shape (a triangle perhaps) in which a number
of different paths can be taken from the same starting-point and
eventually meet to complete the figure. The third possibility is
that what is envisaged is a number of circular orbits intersecting
at a point but tracing a different path on a sphere. This model has
the advantage of accounting for the fact that we find ourselves
back at the point of intersection and yet in each case setting out to
trace a new path that will again return us to the origin. It also
corresponds in spatial structure to the arrangement of the circles
of the Same and the Different out of which the demiurge
constructs the world-soul (s6b—d), which rotate across each
other in contrary directions and at varying speeds. Again, it seems
possible to find in Timaeus' account of the world a structure that
resembles the structure of the world it is to describe. Timaeus,
like his demiurge, bends his account round to form a series of
circles.
The second return to the starting-point comes at 483, where
Timaeus introduces the work of necessity as a second principle
alongside the work of reason with which he had been dealing up to
that point. At this point, Timaeus sets out a second time from his
starting-point; but, on this second trip, the direction of the voyage
is not so secure as the first had been. Timaeus has to describe the
'wandering cause', and the danger of wandering from the course
and getting into difficulties on the way is more severe. Timaeus
first hesitates before the task of designating what exactly is the
underlying principle of all things, or, indeed,
44
Some translations suggest that what is required is that 'we retrace our steps',
but in neither 48a-b nor 6ga-b does the Greek explicitly indicate that we cover the
same route again whether in reverse or in the same direction. All that is clear in
each case is that we start again from the same starting-point as we had passed
through before. We find ourselves in the same place more than once. Cf. 6ic —d.
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how many such principles there are. That task is not one that can
be attempted at this point on the present route. It is 'difficult to
indicate our opinions in the course of the present route of passage'
(48cz—d^).
Instead, a return to the beginning is in order and we must
embark on a new voyage from our original starting-point, which
will in due course enable us to attempt the task of defining and
describing the number and nature of the basic elements,45 and of
discovering why the so-called four elements have the status not of
letters but of something at least as complex as syllables if not
more so.46 The new voyage requires a guardian deity to bring us
safe to port, just as we had to call upon the gods at the very start
of the whole undertaking (zyc-d): 'So now at the start of our
discourse we shall call upon god as our guardian from the strange
and unfamiliar narrative to give us safe passage as far as the
doctrine of likely things, and we shall begin once again to speak.'47
What is clear here is that the discourse concerning the wandering
cause passes through peculiarly difficult waters. The danger is that
we should wander off the route and fail to reach the exemplary
result we seek. It is tempting to connect this with Timaeus'
concern to find a 'safe' way of using language at 49d.48
The exposition of the work of reason has also had its difficulties. They concerned the way that we match the spoken account to
the logical sequence of creation in the work of reason. Strictly
speaking, the soul is prior to the body, and Timaeus' account
45
Given that Timaeus says at 480-d that he cannot undertake the task of
declaring the arche at this point, we may suppose that the attempt to deduce
the nature of the receptacle in 493 ff. is not meant to be the fulfilment of that
task, but rather the new route that will bring us to the vantage-point from
which to undertake the task.
46
480—c. The word for 'element' (stoicheion) is also the word for 'letter', the
basic element out of which words are made. Here, Plato is making explicit an
analogy latent in the Greek language itself between language and the material
world: both are constructed out of a series of more or less complex parts.
Hence, it is not implausible to suppose that Ti. as a whole is using this analogy to
say something about the nature of discourse.
47
48d4~€i. The image, according to R. D. Archer-Hind, The 'Timaeus' of
Plato, ed. with intro. and notes (London, 1888), 169, is that of sailors embarking
on a voyage and calling on a protecting deity to see them safe to their destination.
48
See further Sect. II, 'Matter', below.
2OO
ought to have dealt with the creation of the soul first in time in
order to reflect its priority in the demiurge's creation. Timaeus'
account aims to reproduce the work of the demiurge, but fails at
this point (34010-3531).
Timaeus' account fails to reproduce the work of the demiurge in
its logical order because the way we speak is tied up with our
involvement with what is contingent.49 Discourse, as we actually
use it, correlates in the hierarchy not with the rational order of the
demiurge and his Forms but with the contingent order of the
material world. We might say that our usage of language does not
fully allow the systematic representation of the work of reason,
since it already imports the unsystematic principle, the wandering
cause that underlies the world we know.
In this respect, Timaeus cannot bring his account to match
accurately the sequence of reason. But, in other respects, the
account does match the physical structure of the world, in space if
not in chronological order. Most obvious is the fact that the
discussion of the receptacle occurs roughly in the middle of
Timaeus' account, after the second of the three new beginnings.
There is, of course, a sense in which the receptacle is the matrix
that underlies the entire material world, and, hence, has no special
spatial location at any one point in that world. Rather, it is the
spatial location of all the rest. That is also true, in some sense, of
the role of the receptacle within Timaeus' own account, since he
needs the concept of the receptacle to explain the nature of
necessity and the material aspects of causation, and, in this sense,
the receptacle is fundamental to the whole account. But there is
also a sense in which the unformed receptacle does have a proper
place in the scheme of things. It is, of course, ambiguous,
occupying the dividing-line between being and becoming, or
indeed between what is and what is not. It is a 'third kind of
thing',50 in addition to Forms and particulars. As such, it
appropriately occupies a middle location.st It is
49
dAAd TTWS r)fjLtis troXv (j.frfxovT€s TOV npoaTVxovTos re xai flxrj ravrr/ irrj Kai
\f-yofjLfV, 3302—3.
50
Tpirov y€i>os, 4864, 5238.
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See J. Derrida, 'Chora', in Poikilia: Etudes offertes ajf.-P. Vernant (Paris,
1987), 265—96; L. Brisson, L,e Meme et I'autre dans la structure ontologique du
'Timee' de Platan (Paris, 1974), 178-220. The receptacle also occupies an
important place in the paradigm-copy relation. See E. N. Lee, 'On the
Metaphysics of the Image in Plato's Timaeus', Monist, 50 (1966), 341-68.
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apparent that the more rational causal principles, the demiurge
himself, the paradigmatic Forms, the circles of the world-soul,
and the rational souls of humankind, all have their location at the
outer edges of the material world or indeed outside it,52 while the
least rational causal furniture properly belongs at the centre. The
receptacle is difficult to conceive precisely because it is that
which is wholly without quality or form. As such, it belongs at
the very bottom of the pile, furthest from the reaches of Form and
reason. The bottom in our spherical world is the centre; hence the
receptacle appropriately occupies the central place in Timaeus'
account.
Matter
Discourse proves inadequate for expressing the logical sequence of
the works of reason. Arguably, there is a similar problem in
describing the demiurge himself.53 But most acute of all is the
difficulty of speaking of the nurse of becoming, the receptacle
that underlies matter. Timaeus makes a number of apologies for
his attempt at putting the receptacle into words at 49a—b. He
indicates a problem about our normal use of language, which
turns out to be inaccurate. We tend to suppose that the things we
meet every day, fire and water and the like, are things that we
can pick out with words and speak of as 'this' and 'that'.
Technically, this is incorrect, according to Timaeus, because the
language of 'this' and 'that' implies that the objects picked out are
things with some identity and permanence: things that are, not
qualities that merely become. In fact, fire and water and the like
are passing phases; they are qualities characterizing the basic stuff
that is the only thing that can accurately be indicated by the
words 'this' or 'that':
52
See Osborne, 'Topography', 108, and D. Sedley, 'Teleology and Myth in the
Phaedo', in J. Cleary and D. Shartin, eds., Proceedings of the Boston Area
Colloquium in Ancient Philosophy, 5 (1991), 359-83. Timaeus objects to calling
one region 'up' and another 'down' in the spherical universe, 620—636.
53
Two problems are indicated concerning the demiurge: one is that it is hard to
find him, and the other is that, if you did find him, it would be impossible to tell
all people what you had found, 2803-5. The difficulty of 'telling' may lie in the
inadequacy of language for the job or in the difficulty of understanding something
hard to conceive. The reference to 'all people' suggests the latter difficulty.
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So, given that these things never appear the same, how could anyone be
certain of one of them that it is this and not something else, and not regret
it? It could not be. But our safest course by far, when we are dealing with
these things, is to speak in the following way: when we see something
changing over time, such as fire, we should always call it something 'in
this condition', and not 'this' fire, each time, and not 'this' water but
always 'what is in this condition'. Among the other things that we
generally pick out in language by using the terms 'this' and 'that', thinking
that we are signifying some thing, we should not speak of any as if it had
some permanence. (4907-62)
There is, then, a difficulty about applying language correctly to
the world of becoming where the things we have to speak about
are transitory qualities predicated of some more basic subject.54
But this problem about the changing nature of ordinary things,
which will not allow them to qualify for the designation 'this',
differs from the difficulty that we have in finding words to
describe what does lie beneath and qualify for the designation
'this'. Here, we can find no other term, besides 'this' or 'that', to
indicate the receptacle, because in itself it is wholly lacking in
qualities (506-513). To apply any description to it would be to
speak of it in one of its qualified forms.
In the end, Timaeus offers three ways of speaking of the receptacle with some accuracy in language. The first is by metaphor,
using four analogies: the modelling material (5034^5), the basis
used for perfumes (5065), the mother's role in reproduction
(5od2-3, 5134-5), and the 'nurse' (szds). Secondly, he suggests
some ways of describing it which are 'not false': namely, to deny
that it has the character of any of the elements, and to declare that it
is invisible, formless, receptive of everything, that it participates
in what is intelligible, though in a puzzling way, and is
extremely difficult to grasp (sia-b). Thus, we can correctly say a
number of things about what the receptacle is not like. Thirdly,
we can talk about the receptacle by describing how it is characterized as fire, water, and so on (sib2-6).
54
The fact that language has a problem with changing things does not preclude the idea that it has difficulty expressing what is eternal and unchanging
(see n. 20 above). The difficulty pointed out here is not a general one rejecting
all our attempts to indicate items, but rather the use of 'this' for things that do
not deserve such an identity. Clearly, our ordinary terms pick out qualities that
things temporarily have, and can be used to say so properly in certain circumstances.
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Of these various difficulties concerning the correct description
of the receptacle, one involves an inaccuracy in ordinary language
when it speaks of fire and water as 'this' and 'that'. But the other
difficulties arise from the difficulty of grasping or expressing
what can strictly only be pointed out as 'this' and can never be
described as possessing any character of its own. It is plain that
the lack of words to describe the receptacle is correlated with the
lack of qualities to be described in the receptacle. We can use
words to describe how something is qualified when it is qualified,
but we cannot describe what is totally lacking in the qualities to
which our words relate.
The problems over describing the receptacle reinforce what we
had already observed in dealing with the demiurge and the eternal
forms. Timaeus' discourse, describing the world, occupies the
same rank, in the hierarchy of verbal images, as does the world that
he describes, in the hierarchy of images in the physical realm.
Timaeus creates a world out of words, and the words have to
serve as the building-blocks, corresponding to the building-blocks
out of which the demiurge constructs his world.
In the case of the world, we might identify the building-blocks
in two ways. Firstly, there is the set of causes that are mentioned
as building-materials at 693. For the world, we need (i ) a creator,
(2) the eternal paradigm on which the work of reason is modelled,
and (3) the wandering cause that imports necessity.55 But,
secondly, there are the elements, the geometrical shapes that
characterize the basic stuff that the demiurge uses to construct his
more elaborate world. These geometrical shapes are not matter 3t
its most basic; they are already, as we were so clearly told in
learning of the receptacle, qualities that come into being in the
underlying receptacle. But they are what we actually deal with in
the world, and they are what the demiurge uses in putting order
into the world.
III. Words that Make Sense
When Timaeus creates his world in discourse, it seems clear that
he does not approach the task with language that is totally
55
Alternatively, we may take the set of (i) Form, (2) Copy, and (3) Space, listed
at 516—528.
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unformed. The words that he uses already carry some associated
meaning, and that is why it is impossible to enrol them to serve
any task we like. They serve Timaeus' task just as the elements
serve the demiurge's task, as things that have a certain character
and are moulded to perform certain kinds of task. So words can
serve as the material out of which Timaeus forms a world that
matches the world of becoming.56 But we need not suppose that
language ever appears in a state that would correspond with the
elusive receptacle. We cannot find language in that state any more
than we can find matter in that state. Or perhaps we can, since
Timaeus suggests that the alphabet provides an analogy: the
alphabet for matter is not fire and water but something more
fundamental, apparently what we are to call the 'nurse of
becoming'.57 In language, the alphabet appears to be the bottom
rung, out of which all else is made, in which everything takes its
expression, and which by itself has no meaning.
Timeaus inherits the alphabet already created. For the paradigm, on which to model his account of the world, he looks elsewhere. Like the demiurge he does not create ex nihilo, and he
does not create his own blueprint. Despite the contrast with
Critias' second-hand tales, it is not originality that is prized in
Timaeus' account. Neither Timaeus nor his demiurge expects to
be praised for inventing something new. What has Timaeus done
that is worth while? Like the demiurge, he has given expression
to the perfection of the eternal model by producing an image of it,
as like to the original as possible, moulded out of a material that is,
in some respects, unequal to the task. Timaeus' words cannot
accurately describe the demiurge himself, or the eternal Forms, or
the receptacle, because the words are ideally suited to describing
the level of reality that comes between the Form and the
receptacle. Like the copy in the world of becoming, his discourse
combines matter and form.
56
Compare the theory of Socrates' dream in the Theaetetus (20id—2020), that
the elements of language (and of things likewise) are inexplicable and
unknowable, and can only be named.
57
See above, n. 47. At 48b—c, Timaeus says that we tend to suppose that the socalled elements are the stoicheia, the letters, when in fact they are not even as
fundamental as syllables, presumably in fact nothing less complex than words.
Clearly, the receptacle must be most basic, so it must have the status of letters
unless there is some even more basic material of language. In the material world
the triangles (S3C~54b) may be at the level of syllables.
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We may safely assume that Timaeus does not have to invent
his alphabet but inherits it ready-made, as the demiurge inherited
the receptacle for his world. But does Timaeus construct his
discourse out of words that already come endowed with meaning,
or do they acquire their meaning in the context of the discourse
into which he builds them? To answer this question, I suggest that
we should look at the analogy with the work of the demiurge. Does
the demiurge impose the geometrical structure on matter to make
the receptacle come in the form of fire, water, and the other basic
qualities? Does he first encounter the receptacle in its
formlessness, or does he find it already oscillating between the
qualities it is capable of receiving, and choose those features as
they suit his purpose for the good? These two options are
analogous to the two options regarding Timaeus' discourse. Either
he is responsible for giving the meaning to his language, or his
role is to organize words that already carry some potential for
meaning.
When we look closely at the text, it becomes clear that Plato
has no doubt about the material that the demiurge has to work
with: he does not find it totally formless. On the contrary, the
threefold structure of reality pre-exists the task of the demiurge;
there already exist form and space and the becoming that is the
combination of the two: 'Let this be the upshot of my account in
sum, three things in threefold form, being and space and
becoming, even before the heavens came into being' ($2d). It is
not the demiurge who devises the perfect geometrical forms out
of which the world is to be constructed. Matter already displays
those forms, even in its chaotic pre-cosmic state, while the
demiurge's task is to transform that potential for good order into
the good order that it is to show in the best of all possible worlds:
And the nurse of becoming, being moistened and the fired and receiving
forms of earth and air and undergoing all the attend other passions that .
upon these, appears in all kinds of aspects . . kinds So when the four a
are shaken by the receptacle, which provides kind of agitating
instrument as it is itself shaken, the things that are least alike are separated off from each other, and those that are together most alike collect
in the same place. Hence, these things regions of occupied different
space even before the universe came to of them. be constructed out
(52d-53a)
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Thus, the demiurge comes to a chaos that already displays the
qualities of earth, air, fire, water, and any others that are to be
identified as basic characters displayed by the receptacle, and he
finds those elements already sorted into the regions of space by
their own automatic mechanical processes. Constructing these
elements, and arranging them with heavy ones at the centre and
light ones at the edges, are not among the demiurge's tasks. Those
are characteristics that he finds already there. His task is to give
rational order and measure to the arrangement of what he finds
there:
Before that, all these things lacked proportion or measure. When the
attempt was made to set the universe in order, first of all fire and water
and earth and air, which bore certain marks of their own but which were
in the sort of state that anything is in when it is not in touch with the
divine, were then for the first time structured with forms and numbers.
That god constructed them to be as beautiful and perfect as is possible
when they had not been so before—this must be the basis of our account
in all circumstances for ever. (533—b)
Plato is claiming that a universe organized by chance, and by the
mechanical functions of the elements, would still be a disordered
universe. Order and rationality, he suggests, are introduced when
an intelligent craftsman constructs a world for a purpose, a world
designed to be beautiful, perfect, and directed to what is good.
While the material elements might automatically congregate in
different regions and produce something with a semblance of
structure, that would not be a cosmos, and it would certainly not
be the best possible world.
But there is an analogous point about language, and the discourse that Timaeus has to offer. The availability of words out of
which he might construct his discourse will not, in itself, account
for the value of the discourse that he does produce. The words
Timaeus chooses to use may pre-exist his account and have some
kind of potential meaning. They may bear some relation to each
other, independently of his use of them in his account of the
world. But randomly or mechanically ordered words would not
supply a satisfactory account of the world, any more than
randomly or mechanically structured matter makes an
intelligently structured world.
Timaeus' account is the best possible, because of what he does
with the words of which he makes it. He structures and
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orders his materials to produce the account best geared to his
purpose. His purpose is to display the value of the world that he
describes and to honour the work of the demiurge. Another
account would not do that job, unless it were produced by a
craftsman, like Timaeus, capable of discerning the perfect paradigm and offering the best account that can be rendered in language. Thus, words serve as Timaeus' material, but the value of
the account lies not in the language itself, nor in the meaning of
individual words, but in the structured whole that is his 'likely'
story, and of which he alone is the craftsman.58
Thus, Timaeus' discourse describes the world, but not because
of any inherent or stable connection of the words by themselves
with the paradigm that they will come to express in his account.
Plainly the words do already carry some meaning, which
influences his choice of words, just as the demiurge selects his
materials according to whatever character each presents. But what
they express, the likeness to which they are moulded, will be
determined not so much by the character that they had before he
came to use them, but by the use to which he puts them in the
image he creates. They do not have a stable character or meaning
of their own, any more than the elements to which the demiurge
comes to embark upon his creation have a stable character. That
much we learnt in discovering that the receptacle that underlies
matter is the only stable and subsistent thing, while the characters
that enable us to describe the so-called elements as 'such and such'
are properties that are acquired.
We are reminded of the contrast drawn between Timaeus' tale
and that which Critias had offered. Timaeus seeks to give an
account that best describes the way the world works, but he does
not suppose that there is one correct 'formula' that he must recite.
It is, rather, to be no less 'likely' than any other.59
58
The value of the work does not seem to derive from its author, however. We
infer from the goodness of our world that there is an intelligent author behind it;
but that does not mean that we value it for its author, nor do we need to appeal to
its author to appreciate its value. It is Critias, by contrast, who is inclined to
appeal to the authority of the original teller of his tale as the source of its value
and truth (2od7~2ia3, 2sdy-e5). Timaeus' account is good not because it is
Timaeus' account but because it is a good one.
59
The uniqueness of Timaeus' account is like that of the world, in that one
good model of a perfect paradigm is sufficient, and will not be improved by
multiplication, though it may not be the only acceptable formula.
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Timaeus, like the demiurge, was to fashion something new and
fine out of a material that could be moulded, with more or less
responsiveness, to illustrate reality. Critias, by contrast, had
supposed that there was a correct set of words, if we could get
back far enough in time and remember accurately the words of
one who knew the distant past. Given the correct formula, we
should be telling the truth. Critias seems to presuppose that the
words permanently stand for facts and things in the worlds, so
that to tell the truth we must simply repeat the right set of words
that pictures a set of events that really happened so.
IV. Natural Science and the Successful Story
My conclusions so far have been about language in general and
the way in which Timaeus claims to use language not as a pictorial imitation of the particular reality of the sensible world but as
a world with meaning of its own, structured to match the world of
the senses. But Plato's dialogue does not simply make a point
about language. It also comments on the status of natural science.
It might be supposed that, in the Timaeus, Plato allows, perhaps for the first time, that there might be some value in empirical
knowledge and the study of nature, just as in the Laws he was to
bring political science down to the realities of experience. But a
closer appreciation of the context in the Timaeus—Critias group
will show that this is far from what we should conclude. Perhaps
it is true that Plato is allowing some importance to the kind of
natural science that Timaeus has to offer; but what sort of science
is that? Timaeus does not suggest that we should turn first to the
natural world, and seek to match our account to what we find
there. On the contrary, he clearly rejects Critias' concern with
'truth' and correspondence with historical events and particular
facts. There is another kind of reality to which Timaeus attempts
to make his account conform, and that is the truth of a paradigm
in the world of being, the Forms. This reality is independent of
the scientist, just as Critias envisaged that his facts of history
were independent of the observer, but it is not accessible to
observation more directly in the particulars of the world than it is
in the discourse of science. Neither can be
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used to check the accuracy of the other. Indeed, the discourse of a
good scientist will seek to model the tale directly on a paradigm
of good order and truth. It will match the world of becoming only
because it has the same status, as an image in words, while the
world of particulars is an image in matter. The discourse will
enable us to see the world for what it is, the best of all possible
worlds, just as much as the world can enable us to appreciate the
truth of the discourse. Neither is prior nor more direct as an image
of what is true.
If this position is considered in the light of the familiar debate
between a realist or an instrumentalist account of truth and
success in a scientific theory, we find that Plato's position is
neither that of the realist, for whom independently available facts
of the particular world are named and described in the scientific
account, nor that of the instrumentalist, for whom the theoretical
account is a convenient fiction and corresponds to nothing
independent of the observer's most successful outlook on the
world.60 For Timaeus, the validity of the 'scientific' account is not
observer-related, nor is it a theoretical construct that refuses to
engage with reality. But the reality to which it conforms is not the
material world, nor is it a reality available to the scientist more
directly, as an independently measurable standard to which he
might compare his account. It is exemplified in his discourse, and
in discourse generally, as well, and as immediately, as it is
embodied in the material world.
Timaeus' scientific account does not seek the sort of truth that
consists in correspondence with real events. That is precisely why
Plato must deny that it is 'true' in the sense that Critias' tale about
the past was claiming to be 'true'. Timaeus' discourse is
exemplary or 'likely', because it models the created world on a
permanent world of real being.61
60
See G. E. R. Lloyd, 'Saving the Appearances', Classical Quarterly, NS 28
(1978), 202—22; repr. in Lloyd, Methods and Problems in Greek Science (Cambridge,
1991), 248—77.
61
See G. E. R. Lloyd, 'Plato on Mathematics and Nature, Myth and Science',
Humanities-International Christian University Publication 4 B (Mitaka, Tokyo),
18(1983), 11-30; repr. in Lloyds, Methods, 333-51: 342-51, for a more detailed
analysis of Ti.'s reservations about the truth that can be achieved in natural
science. Nevertheless, Lloyd still implies that Plato regards the 'likely' status of
natural science as a failure in this respect, rather than, as I am suggesting, its
virtue.
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If this is so, the contrast between the 'poetical' approach of
Critias' ancient history and the scientific approach of Timaeus'
story is essential to understanding what Plato's view of science is.
So far from turning from theory to empirical investigation in his
old age, Plato reaffirms an attitude found in the Republic: a
description has validity, not in virtue of its faithfulness to
empirical aspects of our familiar world, but in virtue of its aspiration to an ideal.62 Such a theory comes close to truth just in so far
as, in speaking of the world of becoming, it tells of how it must be
if it perfectly, or as nearly as possible, instantiates the ideal;
whereas the poet and the historian will be dissatisfied unless they
modify, or indeed construct, the theoretical model on the basis of
the way that they find the imperfect things of this world appear to
be.
It does not follow that all discourse bears a direct relation to the
realm of being. Perhaps there are two ways of talking. One of
those, Critias' way, describes or pictures the things of experience,
offering a further picture of an image, and expects to be judged, as
Critias expects to be judged, on the accuracy of its resemblance to
the particular model that we can see independently. The other is
Timaeus' way, which offers a likeness of the ideal, and aims to
judge the value of its account not by reference to the actual world
that is itself an imperfect image, but by reference to an ideal
paradigm that it seeks to exemplify.
It seems clear that the kind of studies required to instil in the
philosopher an understanding of reliable scientific models has not
changed fundamentally from that envisaged in the Republic. The
Timaeus comments, by means of an illustration from natural
science, on the reason why an acceptable account of the ideal state
in action will not be one that looks for a historical realization of it
in practice. On the contrary, if we wish to flesh out the ideal city
we shall not need to realize a historical example; it will be
sufficient to build a city in words, just as Timaeus
62
Cf. R. 52yd—53oc on the common mistake of paying attention to the stars
when doing theoretical astronomy. I am not suggesting that Plato holds that
material and particular things have no value or goodness. Plainly, Ti. argues that
an understanding of the goodness of the created order is an essential part of
science correctly done. The point is rather that the scientific account is correct not
in its accurate portrait of particulars but in its understanding of the paradigm that
explains them.
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constructs in systematic discourse a sort of twin-earth to match the
product made by the demiurge.63
63
I am grateful to Christopher Gill, M. M. McCabe, and an anonymous reader
for Oxford University Press, for helpful comments on an earlier draft; to Oswald
Hanfling, my colleagues at Swansea, and the audience at the Swansea
Philosophical Society for attacking a number of unclarities and problems; and to
Luc Brisson for sending me copies of some of his published work on the Timaeus.