From PhilPapers forum Philosophy of Religion:

2015-02-12
can we imagine spirituality without religion?

Hi Abootaleb Safdari

RE: “we have no way to estimate or measure this " genuine religious faith ", therefore we should trust statistics.”

I think this is an example of what is usually called a non sequitur.

RE “first of all what is this "modern western culture"  exactly? Who is responsible to define its limits and scope? its nature?”

Have you travelled much Abootaleb Safdari?  If so, have you ever noticed how everywhere seems so much the same these days? Same technologies. Same shopping malls. Same products in the shops. Same hotels. Much the same (vacuous) music. Same, or very similar, movies and television. The list goes on.

RE: ‘"with minor exceptions here and there, the same is true for most cultures around the world today..." Indian Culture you mean? or islamic culture ? or chinese culture? which one do you mean ? 

There are small pockets here and there – all getting smaller all the time. Even the indigenous people in the Australian inland, thousands of miles from big cities, have mobile phones…

RE: “Yes. [the influence of the West] has been strong, but not its culture, its technology and economy”.

It ends up being one package. It’s very hard to believe in a paradise up there in heaven when we know there is no “up there”, that “heaven” is an infinity of galaxies, gases, black holes etc, and that our planet is a microscopic speck in the endless vastness of time and space. Science killed off Christianity back in the 18th century. Other religions were insulated for longer periods so their death has been a bit delayed.

Re: They wear their own clothes and they speak their own language and have their own lifestyle.”

So…? I’m not suggesting that Western influences have made everyone speak the same language. Though it’s worth noting that small language groups continue to die out in many places around the world. Many Australian indigenous languages have disappeared forever.  

RE: “why you don't talk about the vast majority of western people who are interested of yoga or other similar eastern orders and schools?”

Really? The “vast majority”? That’s not at all what I observe. "A small minority" would be more accurate.

Re: “This door will remain close, without religion or spirituality...”

At the moment the door separates us from religion or spirituality.

(Note: I’m not necessarily saying that any of this is a good or a bad thing. I’m simply noting what I observe.)

DA