Hi Glenn
RE: “I think the
"like" was the first one, a like of comparison”
As I mentioned, Nagel – who is the source and authority for
all this – ruled that meaning out. That doesn’t bother you at all?
RE: “as Berkeley
pointed out they are.. etc”
This is not about what Berkeley of whoever may have thought
about comparisons or whatever. It’s about a quite specific statement and what,
if anything, it might mean. I can see
you haven’t read my refutation carefully but, don’t worry, you're in good company.
I’ve posted it on 3 or 4 threads at different times and so far I haven't encountered anyone who has been able to follow the argument. (Though it’s not at
all difficult - just a bit of straightfoward, run-of-the-mill philosophical
analysis.)
RE: I do not think
the expression "there is something it is like to be
conscious" is supposed to compare consciousness to something other
than consciousness as you seemed to suggest. “
So what are you saying? That consciousness is being compared
to itself? That would be enlightening! Like saying “This apple is like itself.”
RE: “With the film
zombie the body is supposed to be dead (no heart pumping etc.), but that is not
the case with philosophical zombies.
Interesting. Philosophical zombies have no brain (because, gee,
heck, they’re “all dark inside”) but they do have a functioning heart. The anatomy
of philosophical zombies is truly fascinating. Can they leap tall buldings in one bound do you think?
RE: What I am
inquiring about is whether you are aware of any features that human beings have
which you cannot understand how they can be reduced to the features discussed
in physics?”
I’m not sure I understand the question. Are you asking if I
think there are any features of the human body that cannot be explained in
purely physical terms? It’s very possible human consciousness is not explainable
in purely physical terms. But who knows? Since no one has even come close to giving
a convincing explanation of what human consciousness is, and the relevant area
of philosophy is bogged down in puerile ideas like “zombies” and brains in vats, the answer to
your question is: so far, it’s anyone’s guess.
DA